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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 6 @ 11:52 AM ET
Michael Pachla: A numbers breakdown. Buffalo will be butting up against NHL cap ceiling.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 6 @ 11:54 AM ET
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 6 @ 11:55 AM ET
That is a misrepresentation of how LTIR cap relief works
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 6 @ 11:57 AM ET
That is a misrepresentation of how LTIR cap relief works
- YuenglingJagr

how's that?
currphij
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Airdrie, AB
Joined: 08.25.2013

Jul 6 @ 12:01 PM ET
LTIR does not kick in until after the season starts. However, you need to be under the cap prior to the start of the season. You cannot take advantage of this cap relief until after the beginning of the season.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 6 @ 12:02 PM ET
Looking to start a dynasty with hockeybuzz members. Tried the last few years, but came up short. Have 4 already, looking to have 12. PM if interested.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 6 @ 12:03 PM ET
LTIR does not kick in until after the season starts. However, you need to be under the cap prior to the start of the season. You cannot take advantage of this cap relief until after the beginning of the season.
- currphij

ty...easy fix
Sabre_Tooth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We're all Duane, NE
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jul 6 @ 12:07 PM ET
How freakin weird is it to be near the ceiling?

It's been a while - Staind
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 6 @ 12:07 PM ET

- DDM-Coga

SOLID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jul 6 @ 12:09 PM ET
ty...easy fix
- Michael Pachla

SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 6 @ 12:11 PM ET
3 mill a year for Foligno is an absolute complete joke, hoping you mean a 2 yr deal.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 6 @ 12:13 PM ET
Unless they start to move some guys prior to the season, it's going to be cash in for cash out.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 6 @ 12:16 PM ET
next year Gio and McCormick will save us 5.5, and according to general fanager, a buyout of Moulson next year would save us 2.2 mil. There's 7.7 in savings, with Georges and Kane leaving shortly there after.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 6 @ 12:20 PM ET
Unless they start to move some guys prior to the season, it's going to be cash in for cash out.
- dadeadhead

they had a few hockey sets from mid 70's missing a few cards (1 or 2) at antique world sunday

I would have grabbed them but I had already picked up 58 off the wall baseball card sets for $20
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 6 @ 12:20 PM ET
3 mill a year for Foligno is an absolute complete joke, hoping you mean a 2 yr deal.
- SABRES 89

embrace the bums
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 6 @ 12:20 PM ET
Hawks get Tootoo
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 6 @ 12:21 PM ET
embrace the bums
- homiedclown

That's just a joke 3 mill a year for Foligno, McGinn got 3.3 and he scored 20 goals.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 6 @ 12:22 PM ET
If you go to general fanager and take Rodriguez, C O'Reilly, Derek Grant, Schnieder, Falk, and Ullmark off the cap it put's them at $59,712,022. Which leaves them with $13,287,978 to sign Risto, Girgs, and Foligno. Factor Risto at 5.7 and the other two in that 5-6 range, it really doesn't leave them much wiggle room to bring in a top 6 or top 4 guy.
MurraysMotive
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ON
Joined: 06.30.2015

Jul 6 @ 12:23 PM ET
Foligno seems to only show up in contract years. Not fond of committing to these players.
Re: Stafford, Drew.
yse325
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Marietta, GA
Joined: 02.14.2008

Jul 6 @ 12:23 PM ET
Where did u get your estimates for the 3 RFA contracts? Foligno's qualifiying offer is 2.25 and he isn't going to receive much more then that. Girgensons has no leverage. His deal will likely be less then McCabe's. His qualifying offer is in the 900k range.

As to Risto, his deal could be anything. It could be a 2 year bridge deal at 4 per season or a 7 yr 40 mill deal. I'm think 5 for 25 is the most likely as it gives him a chance to sign another huge deal.

Also don't forget Vesey and his $900K salary plus 2.8 in bonuses when he signs.

I agree we are now a cap team, but we'll still have about 4 mill when the season starts plus McCormick's 1.5 on LTIR. If we need more cap room, Franson can always he traded, waived or sent down.
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Jul 6 @ 12:25 PM ET
Vesey would fit.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 6 @ 12:25 PM ET
3 mill a year for Foligno is an absolute complete joke, hoping you mean a 2 yr deal.
- SABRES 89


yeah...probably, but we'll see how they shake out
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 6 @ 12:27 PM ET
That's just a joke 3 mill a year for Foligno, McGinn got 3.3 and he scored 20 goals.
- SABRES 89



Matt Martin jut got 2.5 from Toronto, had 19 points in 80 games and has 88 points in 438gp.

Foligno's qualifying offer is 2.5(made 2.25 last year), had 23 points in 75 games and has 93 points in 267 gp.

Like it or not he's going to get 2.5-3 on his next deal.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 6 @ 12:27 PM ET
Where did u get your estimates for the 3 RFA contracts? Folgino's qualifiying offer is 2.25 and he isn't going to receive much more then that. Girgensons has no leverage. His deal will likely be less then McCabes. His qualifying offer is in the 900k range.

As to Risto, his deal could be anything. It could be a 2 year brdige deal at 4 per season or a 7 yr 40 mill deal. I'm think 5 for 25 is the most likely as ut gives him a chance to sign another huge deal.

Also don't forget Vesey and his $900K salary plus 2.8 in bonuses when he signs.

- yse325


I don't think he does. His mind is made up where he wants to go.

Ultimately I think he ends up in Boston.

great for personal choice, but bad in terms of hockey.
Bostons window is closing fast and they are grasping at every glimmer of hope (old vets) they can to win now.

I don't think they do however, as they are just not good enough.


Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 6 @ 12:27 PM ET
Where did u get your estimates for the 3 RFA contracts? Foligno's qualifiying offer is 2.25 and he isn't going to receive much more then that. Girgensons has no leverage. His deal will likely be less then McCabe's. His qualifying offer is in the 900k range.

As to Risto, his deal could be anything. It could be a 2 year bridge deal at 4 per season or a 7 yr 40 mill deal. I'm think 5 for 25 is the most likely as it gives him a chance to sign another huge deal.

Also don't forget Vesey and his $900K salary plus 2.8 in bonuses when he signs.

I agree we are now a cap team, but we'll still have about 4 mill when the season starts plus McCormick's 1.5 on LTIR. If we need more cap room, Franson can always he traded, waived or sent down.

- yse325


I went on the high-end of all three
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